Week 1: Tyler (0-0) Vs. Marshall (0-0)

2-19 Vs. Longview lately......

Doesn't matter what kind of season we've had..... doesn't matter who the coach was..... doesn't matter how much talent we've had... one thing has been pretty consistent..... we lose to Longview.

Maybe we should win some games against them before talking smack.

I'd love to see us turn things around Vs. the Lobos. I'd love to see the series become competitive again. Id love to see Marshall have a winning streak against them.....

But until that happens..... I don't see any point in talking smack. Looks foolish.

Besides..... history has shown.... we can do whatever Vs. Longview.... and still go on to have a fantastic season.

Not to mention.....we have a Tyler team to be thinking about first.

GO MAVS GO!

BEAT TYLER!

While a lot of Longview people want to bash the Longview-Marshall series, its not really about Marshall, it's more about Longview.

Longview is just that much better than everyone else in 5A/6A in East Texas.

We haven't just lost to Longview, we've been dominated most seasons.  I think that's a reflection on where Longview is, less a reflection of where Marshall is.  Like Mavchamp said, we've gone on to some great seasons after losing to Longview.  We're just in different orbits right now.

Who else in our district would give Longview a better game the last decade?  Two decades?  Maybe Texas High....but they'd still lose.

Would Nac be more competitive against Longview than Marshall has been?  I say no.  Whitehouse?  Hell no.  Hallsville?  Absolutely not.  Mount Pleasant?  Not even close.  Pine Tree?  Laughable.

What Longview has done to Marshall the last 20 years is the exact same thing they would be doing to everyone else in our district.

Look what they've done to Tyler Lee.  Lufkin hasn't been competitive with them in a long time.  Tyler is the only one that as half way been competitive when they have strong seasons.  But when they are down, Longview stomps them into the ground too.

Losing big to Longview is just what East Texas schools do.  None are in their orbit.  Until others catch up to them, then we have to wait for them to fall to Earth some.  Which sounds like isn't happening soon.  

That's some outstanding grammar.

After watching the JT vs Longview game from last year, I'm feeling a little more optimistic about this match-up.

I know every team matches up differently, but it was 49-0. They were having Qb issues but we were experimenting with different qbs as well. Neither team was able to establish much offense vs the Longview D, but holding Longview to 14 is no easy task when the offense doesn't have the ball very long. Most years it would have snowballed on us just like it did vs JT.

Jt will be fresh with healthy qbs and McFall moving around. So their Offense will be much better than what they showed vs Longview. I expect a battle with our offense being the x factor. Can we score? If so, I believe the defense will give them a chance.

I agree with you MC.  The night's success will fall on how well the offense plays.  No matter what happens in the first few games though, I think we've got a pretty good squad this season.  Been a long time since I've seen and heard so much excitement.  Sort of reminds me of 2018 and that was a special season.

It's all going to come down to offensive line and QB play.  JQ Davis should be the best RB in the district.  But without the OL it won't matter.  We need some WRs to step up too.  They dropped some perfect passes from Slone last season.  Can't be dropping the easy ones.  And of course Slone can't be tossing interceptions.  He has to make his reads, his progressions, and make some safe, accurate throws.  Just tossing it up will lead to turnovers.

I would like to see a wing T package with Bird at Qb & JQ and Quin in the backfield.

Unlikely.

Jalen Hale played varsity as a freshman.

Did not play a single snap of 9th grade football for Longview.

Marshall did beat Judson when these SRs were in 8th grade but Judson was also the worst MS team in Longview that year. Forest Park beat them 16-6 and Foster (where Jalen Hale went and the best LV MS team that year) beat Judson 20-6.

Longview's SR class is good. But the JR class is special and the main reason why Longview is ranked so high going into the season. Sophomore class also special and there is no let up with '26 and '27. Matter of fact, '26 has maybe the most trench talent that I've seen in one Longview class.

I thought it was Hale,but I stand corrected. That doesn't change how I feel, and what I
think the outcome of the upcoming game will be. If I'm wrong, I'll come back and say so. But, until then I'm sticking with my prediction (Marshall over Longview).

Lobo fans trash talk their opponents more than any fan base in Texas.  Trash Marshall, John Tyler, Tyler Lee, Lufkin.  They can't help themselves.

THIS.

Until Longview loses to any of us..... they earn the right to talk as much as they like.