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Post by Mavdad on May 30, 2022 16:35:50 GMT -6
Hey Mavchanp....
The schedule on this thread has the Carthage game in Carthage, but the webpage has the game in Marshall.
Which is it?
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Post by Mavchamp on May 30, 2022 17:08:29 GMT -6
Hey Mavchanp.... The schedule on this thread has the Carthage game in Carthage, but the webpage has the game in Marshall. Which is it? I have not received the OFFICIAL schedule from MISD. But according to MAXPREPS and the Carthage football twitter.... that game will be in MARSHALL. It will give the Mavs THREE consecutive home games with Henderson, Carthage, and Pine Tree. Which means three ROAD games in 2023. But at least all three are close drives. |
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Post by Mavchamp on May 30, 2022 17:11:35 GMT -6
Aug 19- Tyler Legacy (Scrimmage)
Aug 26- Tyler
Sep 02- AT Longview
Sep 09- Henderson
Sep 16- Carthage
Sep 23- Pine Tree
Sep 30- AT Hallsville
Oct 07- Mount Pleasant
Oct 14- AT Texas High
Oct 21- Bye
Oct 28- Nacogdoches
Nov 04- AT Whitehouse
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Post by FB-Fan on Jun 16, 2022 9:06:14 GMT -6
Aug 19- Tyler Legacy (Scrimmage) Aug 26- Tyler Sep 02- AT Longview Sep 09- Henderson Sep 16- Carthage Sep 23- Pine Tree Sep 30- AT Hallsville Oct 07- Mount Pleasant Oct 14- AT Texas High Oct 21- Bye Oct 28- Nacogdoches Nov 04- AT Whitehouse Three straight home games is all good and great, but three road games in a row in 2023 is going to suck. |
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Post by Mavchamp on Jun 17, 2022 17:08:59 GMT -6
Aug 19- Tyler Legacy (Scrimmage) Aug 26- Tyler Sep 02- AT Longview Sep 09- Henderson Sep 16- Carthage Sep 23- Pine Tree Sep 30- AT Hallsville Oct 07- Mount Pleasant Oct 14- AT Texas High Oct 21- Bye Oct 28- Nacogdoches Nov 04- AT Whitehouse Three straight home games is all good and great, but three road games in a row in 2023 is going to suck. Three away games isn't unheard of..... Marshall had three consecutive away games in 2014 (Crandall, Shreveport, and Hallsville). Also in 2009 (Kilgore, Monroe, Hallsville) Interestingly enough..... we actually had FOUR CONSECUTIVE home games in 2008 and 2010. |
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Post by Mavdad on Jun 25, 2022 12:03:06 GMT -6
I want to play good teams in non district, but our non-district schedule is just dumb. I bet there isn't a program anywhere in 5A D2 that has a schedule like John Tyler, Longview, and Carthage.
Henderson is the only game we will be favored in. It makes no sense to me that Marshall limps into district play every season 1-3, 1-4, 2-3.
I'm not saying we should have a powder puff schedule, but playing 6A and Div I schools with 800-900 more students than us makes no sense. Level the playing field.
How great it would be to head into the playoffs with a 9-1 record. Maybe 10-0 on occasion. Getting kicked around by Longview, New Caney, 6A Tyler Lee is just stupid.
Get some confidence headed into district play instead of going in wondering if we are worth a dang.
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Post by Mav01 on Jun 25, 2022 14:12:36 GMT -6
Longview is the only team that should be favored over us EVERY season. When we are on top of our game we can beat those other teams any given Friday, and have. I like the scrimmage and non district. We have our ONE game we SHOULD win. The rest will force us into playing better before district. Henderson won't even be a push over though. Texas High has a similar non district.
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Post by 5th on Jun 27, 2022 11:05:30 GMT -6
Longview is the only team that should be favored over us EVERY season. When we are on top of our game we can beat those other teams any given Friday, and have. I like the scrimmage and non district. We have our ONE game we SHOULD win. The rest will force us into playing better before district. Henderson won't even be a push over though. Texas High has a similar non district. John Tyler has about 700 students more than Marshall and they aren't a scrub program, I don't think most division II schools would be favored against them. And considering Carthage has beat several 5A programs through the years and how many state titles they have won most wouldn't be favored. We need to start beating programs like that on a consistent basis before we can start saying we should be favored against them. John Tyler is a top 25 team in division I. Carthage is the preseason #1. Longview is a preseason #1. I agree we should be playing some GOOD 5A division II schools. Let the 5A division I schools play each other. Keep Carthage let the others go. |
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Post by Mav01 on Jun 27, 2022 17:16:13 GMT -6
I do think we should be underdogs in 3 out of 4 games THIS season. Longview is loaded this season, but we should at least be competitive against JT and Carthage. Neither team should blow us out if we are prepared.
Should have split against Carthage our last 2 meetings. I don't see how playing them is over doing it. We should play JT close every season with a chance to win any given Friday. Enrollment definitely plays an important role, but you won't see Carthage backing down from a 5a heavy schedule every season. It seems to work in their favor come playoffs. Replace Carthage and JT with maybe a Lake Travis and SLC and I would start to feel negatively about it as well.
So we have 1 game where we SHOULD roll. One game where we could get ROLLED. 2 games that will force us into competing at a high level to pull off slight upsets. A scrimmage with a big school that we've been playing/practicing against for several years successfully. Sounds good to me. I've been wanting an annual game vs Carthage for awhile. And I've been wanting to see JT as a regular opponent again. If I had to choose, I'd drop Longview for maybe a Pleasant Grove.?
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Post by 5th Quarter on Jun 28, 2022 6:04:28 GMT -6
Drop Longview. Keep Carthage and Tyler.
Pick up some 5A Div II schools from Dallas or Houston. Ennis, Huntsville, PNG, maybe one of the better Frisco schools. Something winnable but still be a challenge.
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Post by Mavchamp on Jun 30, 2022 14:35:45 GMT -6
I've long been saying we need to drop the Longview game until either we elevate our game to their level....or until Longview comes back down to Earth a little...which shows no signs of happening anytime soon. The last 20 years for them has been the most successful in their program's history.
Statistically and history shows programs eventually come down to Earth.....but not anytime soon for the Lobos. They have avoided slumps that have plagued Tyler, Tyler Legacy, Lufkin, and Texas High. Even statewide programs like Plano, Odessa Permian, Converse Judson.......
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Post by Gramps on Jul 8, 2022 16:50:05 GMT -6
I'm old enough to remember when we competed with Longview every year. We may have lost more often than we won, but the games were almost always close. Last year was a close game even though we had no offense at all. But if we could make the game a 7-14 point game every year I think less people would be prone to see the rivalry end. But seeing Longview win by 30-40 points every season seems counter productive to both clubs. Last year was 14-0. If we can manage a few years of 14-7, 21-14, 28-21 the series would be worth keeping. Otherwise I say let's ditch it for another 5A team in our bracket.
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Post by Mavchamp on Jul 10, 2022 11:42:51 GMT -6
I agree that if the game was to become competitive again.....annually.... I wouldn't be opposed to it continuing.
But otherwise.....I don't see the point.....
LHS has 800 students more than MHS.... there's a reason the UIL aligns schools of like size together. IJS.....
But yeah.... even if we lost.... I would be OK if the game was at least competitive annually. It might would even change the minds of some of the Lobo fans that currently hate the series too.
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Post by Big-eeLobo on Jul 11, 2022 12:25:47 GMT -6
john tyler- big loss
longview huge loss
henderson- maybe win
carthage huge loss
pine tree- maybe win
hallsville- loss
mt plesaant- loss
texas high- loss
nacogdoches- loss
whitehouse0 maybe win
marshall finishes (3-7) on the season and maybe (2-8)
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Post by Mav01 on Jul 11, 2022 12:47:58 GMT -6
john tyler- big loss longview huge loss henderson- maybe win carthage huge loss pine tree- maybe win hallsville- loss mt plesaant- loss texas high- loss nacogdoches- loss whitehouse0 maybe win marshall finishes (3-7) on the season and maybe (2-8) |
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Post by Mav01 on Jul 11, 2022 12:49:08 GMT -6
john tyler- big loss longview huge loss henderson- maybe win carthage huge loss pine tree- maybe win hallsville- loss mt plesaant- loss texas high- loss nacogdoches- loss whitehouse0 maybe win marshall finishes (3-7) on the season and maybe (2-8) So no playoffs for the lowly mavs this year huh? |
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Post by Big-eeLobo on Jul 11, 2022 14:46:20 GMT -6
So no playoffs for the lowly mavs this year huh? You srsly think Marshall going to make the playoffs again anytime soon? They been going down hill for years. They might not ever get back to where they were. |
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Post by Observer on Jul 15, 2022 14:12:47 GMT -6
It's not impossible that Marshall misses the playoffs. Anything can happen. But I don't think it's smart to pick against us. History has proven we are in the playoffs more often than not.
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Post by MAVO on Jul 21, 2022 16:40:46 GMT -6
Everything I'm hearing is that Hallsville will be terrible again this year. I have a hard time believing they are going to have a massive turnaround from that. Texarkana is the huge favorite, then Marshall. I'm not sure about mp, but we can't overlook them. I think Nac might be our biggest threat.
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Post by Mavfan4life on Aug 2, 2022 14:56:28 GMT -6
Schedule was tweaked a little. No three straight home games this year, which would cause three straight road games next season.
Longview- Away
Henderson- Home
CARTHAGE- AWAY
Pine Tree- Home
Carthage game was originally set for Marshall. Good move by the coaches. Always better to have a 5/5 home and away schedule
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Post by Ron Mexico on Aug 3, 2022 7:40:21 GMT -6
Season tickets that were just released Monday has Carthage as a home game.
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Post by Mavchamp on Aug 3, 2022 14:53:52 GMT -6
Schedule was tweaked a little. No three straight home games this year, which would cause three straight road games next season. Longview- Away Henderson- Home CARTHAGE- AWAY
Pine Tree- Home Carthage game was originally set for Marshall. Good move by the coaches. Always better to have a 5/5 home and away schedule Carthage game is at HOME. |
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Post by Mav01 on Aug 3, 2022 16:55:59 GMT -6
The early schedule had them away, so they must have moved it to home recently.
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Post by Mavchamp on Aug 3, 2022 19:31:10 GMT -6
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Post by Mavgrad05 on Aug 6, 2022 20:26:36 GMT -6
Can't believe we will get South Oak Cliff in the second round of the playoffs. That means we need to take care of business and win the district championship. Then we wouldn't get them until the fourth round.
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