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Post by Playboy15 on Feb 4, 2024 14:41:28 GMT -6
Looking forward to it !!!
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Post by Playboy15 on Feb 4, 2024 14:47:57 GMT -6
Maybe we can get a QB who can throw over the middle and do better than a 5.9/40
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Post by Ghost on Feb 4, 2024 16:05:45 GMT -6
Yall go 1-3 then go 4-2 in district for a 5-5 then lose in the first round to Huntsville
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Post by Playboy15 on Feb 4, 2024 16:12:49 GMT -6
Yall go 1-3 then go 4-2 in district for a 5-5 then lose in the first round to Huntsville 5-6 Want to bet a Quarter on it??? |
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Post by Playboy15 on Feb 4, 2024 16:15:32 GMT -6
Yall go 1-3 then go 4-2 in district for a 5-5 then lose in the first round to Huntsville 5-6 You sound familiar. were you posting as Dubhouse last year |
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Post by LoboFan07 on Feb 4, 2024 16:20:17 GMT -6
I had lunch with "Harlan The Sports Guy", from KYKX in Longview today. and he assured me. "there is no appetite in the Longview coaching staff, or the Lobo's fan base to cancel the series." Since he talks with John King almost every week, I think he would know... Well, I can tell you, this is absolutely, 100% false.
No offense to the Mavs but...Marshall does absolutely nothing to prepare us for district and the playoffs, and has become a week 2 opponent that we use to do nothing but correct mistakes that we made against usually a better opponent in week 1.
There's no rivalry there. We have not lost to Marshall, in any sport, in over three years.
You can say it's coaching, you can say it's the enrollment...I don't care. But the series needs to end in football sooner rather than later, and I imagine it will at some point.
You can throw out all the point averages you want, but at the end of the day, Longview is 46-9 against the Mavs in the last 55 seasons, and 22-1 in the last 23. Rarely are the games even competitive at this point, not even just varsity...on the sub varsities as well. JV hasn't lost to Marshall since 2004, Freshmen haven't lost to Marshall since 2005.
I do think politics and money are the only reason this series hasn't been called off yet, so who knows....but the decision needs to be made. Much rather see the game as an annual scrimmage than actually counting on the books.
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Post by Playboy15 on Feb 4, 2024 16:26:35 GMT -6
I had lunch with "Harlan The Sports Guy", from KYKX in Longview today. and he assured me. "there is no appetite in the Longview coaching staff, or the Lobo's fan base to cancel the series." Since he talks with John King almost every week, I think he would know... Well, I can tell you, this is absolutely, 100% false.
No offense to the Mavs but...Marshall does absolutely nothing to prepare us for district and the playoffs, and has become a week 2 opponent that we use to do nothing but correct mistakes that we made against usually a better opponent in week 1.
There's no rivalry there. We have not lost to Marshall, in any sport, in over three years.
You can say it's coaching, you can say it's the enrollment...I don't care. But the series needs to end in football sooner rather than later, and I imagine it will at some point.
You can throw out all the point averages you want, but at the end of the day, Longview is 46-9 against the Mavs in the last 55 seasons, and 22-1 in the last 23. Rarely are the games even competitive at this point, not even just varsity...on the sub varsities as well. JV hasn't lost to Marshall since 2004, Freshmen haven't lost to Marshall since 2005.
I do think politics and money are the only reason this series hasn't been called off yet, so who knows....but the decision needs to be made. Much rather see the game as an annual scrimmage than actually counting on the books.
I Had Brisket, Harlen had chicken, Why don't you call in, and ask him yourself??? |
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Post by Mav01 on Feb 5, 2024 4:32:04 GMT -6
I had lunch with "Harlan The Sports Guy", from KYKX in Longview today. and he assured me. "there is no appetite in the Longview coaching staff, or the Lobo's fan base to cancel the series." Since he talks with John King almost every week, I think he would know... Well, I can tell you, this is absolutely, 100% false.
No offense to the Mavs but...Marshall does absolutely nothing to prepare us for district and the playoffs, and has become a week 2 opponent that we use to do nothing but correct mistakes that we made against usually a better opponent in week 1.
There's no rivalry there. We have not lost to Marshall, in any sport, in over three years.
You can say it's coaching, you can say it's the enrollment...I don't care. But the series needs to end in football sooner rather than later, and I imagine it will at some point.
You can throw out all the point averages you want, but at the end of the day, Longview is 46-9 against the Mavs in the last 55 seasons, and 22-1 in the last 23. Rarely are the games even competitive at this point, not even just varsity...on the sub varsities as well. JV hasn't lost to Marshall since 2004, Freshmen haven't lost to Marshall since 2005.
I do think politics and money are the only reason this series hasn't been called off yet, so who knows....but the decision needs to be made. Much rather see the game as an annual scrimmage than actually counting on the books.
With Longviews growth now having them officially 2 classifications up, I'm with you on a scrimmage only. However, Marshall isn't much different than playing JT or Tyler Legacy. Perhaps even Lufkin here recently. Longview dominates all area teams usually, not just Marshall. Even on the subvarsity levels. At least Marshall's Freshman didn't lose to Lview. That was with a freshman wr starting on Varsity. So not always dominant on every level compared to other local programs. Even the larger ones. So yes the series should probably end, but not because Marshall is less competitive than other potential East TX competition. Maybe Longview is just that good most years? What goes up, must come down. Enjoy it while it lasts. It's not always easy finding great coaching staffs that want to stay in one place so long. Longview has made a name for itself, so maybe you'll get another good one when King retires. Perhaps a hire from within just to be safe? Or take a risk to be even greater? |
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Post by nacdragon07 on Feb 5, 2024 8:48:31 GMT -6
Well, I can tell you, this is absolutely, 100% false.
No offense to the Mavs but...Marshall does absolutely nothing to prepare us for district and the playoffs, and has become a week 2 opponent that we use to do nothing but correct mistakes that we made against usually a better opponent in week 1.
There's no rivalry there. We have not lost to Marshall, in any sport, in over three years.
You can say it's coaching, you can say it's the enrollment...I don't care. But the series needs to end in football sooner rather than later, and I imagine it will at some point.
You can throw out all the point averages you want, but at the end of the day, Longview is 46-9 against the Mavs in the last 55 seasons, and 22-1 in the last 23. Rarely are the games even competitive at this point, not even just varsity...on the sub varsities as well. JV hasn't lost to Marshall since 2004, Freshmen haven't lost to Marshall since 2005.
I do think politics and money are the only reason this series hasn't been called off yet, so who knows....but the decision needs to be made. Much rather see the game as an annual scrimmage than actually counting on the books.
I Had Brisket, Harlen had chicken, Why don't you call in, and ask him yourself??? well some of this is false yall lost to marshall in baseball just a year ago. |
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Post by LPStrivin on Feb 5, 2024 13:24:03 GMT -6
I had lunch with "Harlan The Sports Guy", from KYKX in Longview today. and he assured me. "there is no appetite in the Longview coaching staff, or the Lobo's fan base to cancel the series." Since he talks with John King almost every week, I think he would know... Well, I can tell you, this is absolutely, 100% false.
No offense to the Mavs but...Marshall does absolutely nothing to prepare us for district and the playoffs, and has become a week 2 opponent that we use to do nothing but correct mistakes that we made against usually a better opponent in week 1.
There's no rivalry there. We have not lost to Marshall, in any sport, in over three years.
You can say it's coaching, you can say it's the enrollment...I don't care. But the series needs to end in football sooner rather than later, and I imagine it will at some point.
You can throw out all the point averages you want, but at the end of the day, Longview is 46-9 against the Mavs in the last 55 seasons, and 22-1 in the last 23. Rarely are the games even competitive at this point, not even just varsity...on the sub varsities as well. JV hasn't lost to Marshall since 2004, Freshmen haven't lost to Marshall since 2005.
I do think politics and money are the only reason this series hasn't been called off yet, so who knows....but the decision needs to be made. Much rather see the game as an annual scrimmage than actually counting on the books.
Narcissistic, braggart, conceited, egomaniac, self worship posts like this is why Longview is the most hated program in East Texas. They belittle everyone on their schedule that's not Aledo or Lake Travis. They look down on smaller classifications. They are always talking about how much better they are than everyone at every thing. Doesn't matter if it's academics, band, facilities, football, soccer, or cow tipping they are the best in the land. Hard times will eventually come and everyone will be laughing their asses off when they do. Get over yourself. |
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Post by Mavchamp on Feb 5, 2024 18:08:12 GMT -6
Well, I can tell you, this is absolutely, 100% false. No offense to the Mavs but...Marshall does absolutely nothing to prepare us for district and the playoffs, and has become a week 2 opponent that we use to do nothing but correct mistakes that we made against usually a better opponent in week 1. There's no rivalry there. We have not lost to Marshall, in any sport, in over three years. You can say it's coaching, you can say it's the enrollment...I don't care. But the series needs to end in football sooner rather than later, and I imagine it will at some point.
You can throw out all the point averages you want, but at the end of the day, Longview is 46-9 against the Mavs in the last 55 seasons, and 22-1 in the last 23. Rarely are the games even competitive at this point, not even just varsity...on the sub varsities as well. JV hasn't lost to Marshall since 2004, Freshmen haven't lost to Marshall since 2005. I do think politics and money are the only reason this series hasn't been called off yet, so who knows....but the decision needs to be made. Much rather see the game as an annual scrimmage than actually counting on the books.
I Had Brisket, Harlen had chicken, Why don't you call in, and ask him yourself??? You already know I support ending the football series. But IIRC...Marshall and Longview split their series in baseball last year. And TBH....prior to the last 2-3 years Marshall has had pretty good success against Longview on the diamond. Also in softball.... I think we last swept Longview in 2021. But prior to that.... Lady Mavs were one of the most successful athletic programs we've had the last 20 years. They had a 20 year playoff streak recently broken. I think boys track has finished ahead of Longview the last 2 seasons. It's almost always a close race for the top 3-4 Volleyball swept Longview in 2021. All this is petty though. This is primarily about football. At the end of the day.....Longview will move back up to 6A and we won't have to play them in any sport. They are significantly larger than almost everyone in our district except THS... and they should play schools closer to their enrollment. It's the very heart of why the UIL exists. Classification of schools. We've been awful at boys basketball the last 2 seasons....and we need some kind of intervention. Seems like we had some success against Longview prior to the regime change. I honestly don't remember. I'd have to look. Doesn't matter. I know the girls beat or split with Longview maybe 2 seasons ago. Soccer is in dire straights. Not beating anyone...in a long time. I think we're going to be pretty competitive this spring in baseball, softball, and track. We can debate the merits of all the other sports....because there's been times when each school has been significantly better than the other in one sport or another. But football....the crux of this conversation...... is not competitive. And it's a waste of time for both really. Time to move on IMHO. 10-11 consecutive Maverick offensive series ending in a three and out for an entire game is a WASTE OF TIME unless you're the punter. Punter is the only one getting any meaningful practice. Let Longview go be 6A...... we will stay on our 5A path..... and maybe one day we'll come to a place where either we can compete and make it worthwhile (in all sports)... or we can go our separate ways and not have to have these conversations anymore. I'd love to have a lively series we could talk smack back and fourth between the fan bases....in ALL sports. Especially football. or I'd also love never having to think about the Lobos for any sport all season long unless I'm just casually interested in how they are doing in their class. |
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Post by Mavgrad05 on Feb 5, 2024 19:19:51 GMT -6
I think we should have found someone else to replace Longview but it's a money grab by both sides. I think most CASUAL fans on both sides probably would prefer to see it continue but I think the DIEHARDS on both sides would prefer to see it end. That's the vibe I get. Unfortunately the majority of fans are casual and not the diehards we see on the message boards and on twitter. I wouldn't have minded seeing Pine Tree take Longview's place in the schedule. We would have 4 games in nondistrict with 2 of them we'd likely be favored to win and 2 we'd be favored to lose, but ALL FOUR are winnable.
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Post by Mavgrad05 on Feb 5, 2024 19:23:41 GMT -6
Well, I can tell you, this is absolutely, 100% false.
No offense to the Mavs but...Marshall does absolutely nothing to prepare us for district and the playoffs, and has become a week 2 opponent that we use to do nothing but correct mistakes that we made against usually a better opponent in week 1.
There's no rivalry there. We have not lost to Marshall, in any sport, in over three years.
You can say it's coaching, you can say it's the enrollment...I don't care. But the series needs to end in football sooner rather than later, and I imagine it will at some point.
You can throw out all the point averages you want, but at the end of the day, Longview is 46-9 against the Mavs in the last 55 seasons, and 22-1 in the last 23. Rarely are the games even competitive at this point, not even just varsity...on the sub varsities as well. JV hasn't lost to Marshall since 2004, Freshmen haven't lost to Marshall since 2005.
I do think politics and money are the only reason this series hasn't been called off yet, so who knows....but the decision needs to be made. Much rather see the game as an annual scrimmage than actually counting on the books.
Narcissistic, braggart, conceited, egomaniac, self worship posts like this is why Longview is the most hated program in East Texas. They belittle everyone on their schedule that's not Aledo or Lake Travis. They look down on smaller classifications. They are always talking about how much better they are than everyone at every thing. Doesn't matter if it's academics, band, facilities, football, soccer, or cow tipping they are the best in the land. Hard times will eventually come and everyone will be laughing their asses off when they do. Get over yourself. Lobo fans bragging about anything and everything has been going on for decades. Best stadium. Best gym. Best campus. Best academics. Best baseball park. Best band. Best everything. Are you new to the internet? This has been going on since I've been online in the early 2000s. They do have some of the best things. But not all things. |
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Post by Playboy15 on Feb 5, 2024 19:41:29 GMT -6
Hey, Mavchamp you are entitled to your Honest Opinion, and I can appreciate your point of view... However it appears to me that our new Head Coach does not share your opinion... He not only continued the series with the LOBOS, He dropped a 4A D2 School with an enrollment of 788 students, and picked up a game with a 6A school with an enrollment of 2648 students. The new 2024 football schedule has the Mavericks playing a 5A D1 school with 589 more students than Marshall, a 6A school with 768 more students than Marshall, and another 6A school with 1136 more students than Marshall, for the first three games of the season. Granted, he traded the Henderson game for one with Palestine (both 4A D1 school with mediocre records), but IMHO i think he expects the Mavericks to perform better next year, at least in the 5A D2 District 7, contests.
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Post by Mavchamp on Feb 5, 2024 20:07:34 GMT -6
Hey, Mavchamp you are entitled to your Honest Opinion, and I can appreciate your point of view... However it appears to me that our new Head Coach does not share your opinion... He not only continued the series with the LOBOS, He dropped a 4A D2 School with an enrollment of 788 students, and picked up a game with a 6A school with an enrollment of 2648 students. The new 2024 football schedule has the Mavericks playing a 5A D1 school with 589 more students than Marshall, a 6A school with 768 more students than Marshall, and another 6A school with 1136 more students than Marshall, for the first three games of the season. Granted, he traded the Henderson game for one with Palestine (both 4A D1 school with mediocre records), but IMHO i think he expects the Mavericks to perform better next year, at least in the 5A D2 District 7, contests. At the end of the day....my opinion doesn't matter. I'm aware. But I think most fans feel the same. I think there's a small contention of folks with very loud voices that keep it going. And I'm no fool.....I think money drives the bus on why it continues too. What other home game sells out or nearly sells out almost every season for either team? None. $$$$ The coach has the final say....I'm assuming with Supt and school board approval. I'm just a fan with a webpage. My opinion doesn't mean much of anything and I'm 100% OK with that. But I'll say it I'm excited about the Tyler game.... and the Legacy game. Neither are nowhere near the Level of Longview. We will probably be underdogs in both, but I think both are winnable. I don't think anyone would be shocked if we won either....but I don't think anyone would be shocked if we lost either. No reason for us to lose to Palestine. They weren't ery good last season. And unless they hired a coach tonight, they still don't even have a coach. They will be starting from scratch. Longview is another story.... and I like what someone said above in another post...... how is Marshall going 3 and out on every possession of the game GOOD for us? Like he said.... the punt team is the only squad getting any work in when we play Longview. I just think a tough, hard fought game like 24-21 or 21-17 or 31-28 against ANYONE is wayyyyy better than 50-7 against Longview. And we have a large enoug sample size to see that's how it's going to be until we either get MUCH better or Longview comes down to Earth a bit. I like the schedule overall....but I still would have substituted the Longview game with someone like Ennis or Corsicana, Mesquite Poteet.... even Pine Tree. And I really hope we step it up this season. I was THRILLED with winning the bi-district game...and we almost shocked the #2 team in the state in the second round but IMHO....a boneheaded coach decision robbed us of all momentum. But we can't ignore we LOST to a Mount Pleasant team last year that didn't even make the playoffs...an we looked HORRIBLE doing it. Our performance against Texas High wasn't much better. OL was putrid in both. And if it wasn't for some serious heroics by Collier Slone Vs. Whitehouse....we would have been sitting at home too. While I was thrilled with the 2nd round..... we cannot ignore we were almost out completely. Most due to OL problems. OL issues have plagued us 3 of the last four seasons. 2022 was the only year we had a strong OL.... and look what our RB's did. I hope they are expecting more. We should expect more. Losing to MP in 2023....and Hallsville in 2022 shouldn't be happening. Not being competitive with Texas High shouldn't be happening. And maybe we can become competitive with Longview again. But we've got to see strides..... and outside of 1 win in 2015.... it's been UGLY for the last 20+ seasons. |
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Post by Playboy15 on Feb 5, 2024 20:23:41 GMT -6
Hear, Hear, Mavchamp.
And thank you for moderating this web page. It really adds to my enjoyment of the season !!!!
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Post by Mavchamp on Feb 5, 2024 20:26:13 GMT -6
With Longviews growth now having them officially 2 classifications up, I'm with you on a scrimmage only. However, Marshall isn't much different than playing JT or Tyler Legacy. Perhaps even Lufkin here recently. Longview dominates all area teams usually, not just Marshall. Even on the subvarsity levels. At least Marshall's Freshman didn't lose to Lview. That was with a freshman wr starting on Varsity. So not always dominant on every level compared to other local programs. Even the larger ones. So yes the series should probably end, but not because Marshall is less competitive than other potential East TX competition. Maybe Longview is just that good most years? What goes up, must come down. Enjoy it while it lasts. It's not always easy finding great coaching staffs that want to stay in one place so long. Longview has made a name for itself, so maybe you'll get another good one when King retires. Perhaps a hire from within just to be safe? Or take a risk to be even greater? Longview beating the snot out of Marshall isn't special. They do it to everyone in East Texas that they play. Marshall- blowout almost every year. Tyler Legacy- blowout almost every year. They currently have a longer losing streak to Longview than Marshall does. Lufkin- This use to be a HUGE rivalry but it has just about devolved into the same thing Marshall and Legacy has. Tyler High- The Lions have gotten a FEW pop shots over the Lobos randomly through the years....but more often than not....BLOWOUT after BLOWOUT here too Sulphur Springs never beat them when they were 5A. Hallsville never beat them when they were in the same district. Neither did Texas High. Or Mount Pleasant. Or Nacogdoches. Or Whitehoue. Or Jacksonville. Almost all those games were blowout. Lognview is simply just another level right now. Might last 1 more season. Might last 10 more seasons. or more. No one knows. But everyone has to accept that the Lobos are state ELITE right now while NO ONE else in East Texas 5A even close to their level. The end. |
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Post by LPStrivin on Feb 5, 2024 21:00:12 GMT -6
Narcissistic, braggart, conceited, egomaniac, self worship posts like this is why Longview is the most hated program in East Texas. They belittle everyone on their schedule that's not Aledo or Lake Travis. They look down on smaller classifications. They are always talking about how much better they are than everyone at every thing. Doesn't matter if it's academics, band, facilities, football, soccer, or cow tipping they are the best in the land. Hard times will eventually come and everyone will be laughing their asses off when they do. Get over yourself. Lobo fans bragging about anything and everything has been going on for decades. Best stadium. Best gym. Best campus. Best academics. Best baseball park. Best band. Best everything. Are you new to the internet? This has been going on since I've been online in the early 2000s. They do have some of the best things. But not all things. Lobo fans live in an echo chamber always building themselves up into being more than they are. They talk like a team that's one 15 state championships. Then they act shocked when they lose. |
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Post by Mavchamp on Feb 5, 2024 21:50:01 GMT -6
This isn't a bash Longview thread. It's about the schedule. Let's stay on topic, please.
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Post by nacdragon07 on Feb 7, 2024 12:22:17 GMT -6
Narcissistic, braggart, conceited, egomaniac, self worship posts like this is why Longview is the most hated program in East Texas. They belittle everyone on their schedule that's not Aledo or Lake Travis. They look down on smaller classifications. They are always talking about how much better they are than everyone at every thing. Doesn't matter if it's academics, band, facilities, football, soccer, or cow tipping they are the best in the land. Hard times will eventually come and everyone will be laughing their asses off when they do. Get over yourself. this is soooooo accurate !!!!!! they didn't even give Aledo credit when they lost to them. |
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Post by Mavfan4life on Feb 8, 2024 13:26:43 GMT -6
I think Marshall could go as well as 3-1 in the non district games, but could go as bad as 1-3. Could be as good as 5-1 in district and as bad as 3-3. So that could be as good as 8-2 and as bad as 4-6.
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Post by Mavchamp on Feb 8, 2024 14:13:33 GMT -6
I think Marshall could go as well as 3-1 in the non district games, but could go as bad as 1-3. Could be as good as 5-1 in district and as bad as 3-3. So that could be as good as 8-2 and as bad as 4-6. 4-6 would be a complete disaster of a season IMHO...... 8-2 would be fantastic..... esp if we are at et least competitive Vs. the Lobos and Texas High (assuming those were the 2 losses you were predicting). I'm thinking 7-3. Maybe 6-4. Just depends how the OL comes together and our ability to replace a QB that was a REALLY GOOD game manager. |
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